Stuart and Carolyn speak with Sarah Dobie of the Taubman College of Architecture and Urban Planning at the University of Michigan about her fascinating new paper on defining "resilience" in the Great Lakes. Resilience is a complicated topic and people frequently use the term differently. But maybe that's okay? Maybe we can learn as much from the differences in definitions as we can from similarities? Plus: We feature a cool Lakie nominee and get some Non-Zingermans Ann Arbor recommendations!

Show links:
State of the Great Lakes

Sarah's article: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0380133022001812

Vidya's uplifting discussion on climate change on TMATGL 36: https://www.teachmeaboutthegreatlakes.com/36

Show credits:
Host & Executive Producer: Stuart Carlton
Co-host Senior Producer: Carolyn Foley

Producers: Hope Charters, Megan Gunn, & Irene Miles

Co-host and Associate Producer: Ethan Chitty
Edited by: Quinn Rose
Podcast art by: Joel Davenport

Music by: Stuart Carlton